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An Open Letter to Young Seekers

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An Open Letter to Young Seekers

Merry Meet!

If you are under 18, you will probably already have noticed that young folks generally elicit different reactions from adults in the Pagan community than what you’d like. You’ve probably had a great deal of difficulty finding someone to answer your questions honestly, or a respected teacher who is willing or able to teach you what you really want to know.

Following is part of the general information we make available for young seekers. If you have any questions, we will do our best to answer what we can, but please understand if sometimes the answer is “you really need to ask your parents.” (If your parents support your interest and would like more information about Wicca, please have them contact us. Or bring them to a Laughing Cat meeting, where they can ask questions and meet members of the local Pagan community.)

We hope you can understand that without knowing your parents, and hearing directly from them that they support your interest in Wicca, an ethical teacher or mentor cannot work with you. Most groups and private teachers don’t accept seekers under 16 or 18. (Some even require you to be 21 — or even older!)

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Evidence

Erin

(This is an unaltered document, I have the original emails with all the headers for this conversation if anyone cares to examine them.  You will also find this PDF file which has many of the original accusations laid out.  The first is an email I received when Mark was being encouraged to quit, just after the events on the PDF File above.  The rest follows from that.  I have not included emails from others, mainly  because that is not my place to share them, but all these are either from me or from my email.  I hope this will bring understanding to you all as to why this action and disassociation was taken.  Please forgive the spelling errors, my email client doesn’t have a spell checker and in the interest of not changing this at all, I have not corrected those spelling errors I came across.  This whole thing makes me wonder if he is really in contact with Buckland at all in the first place.)

Links relevant:

(Update 10-27-03  The soap opera continues)

Blessings Daven,

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So, you’re new to the forum…

Erin

When posting a question for general consumption in a group, and this goes for ANY group, please keep these points in mind:

1. DEFINE THE QUESTION. Please figure out, as closely as possible, what you are looking for. Instead of asking “how do you shield?” try “I already know how to shield, what techniques do you use that may help others with this technique?” In the second case, you will get a much more specific answer to this question. The first is very general, and many who could be answering your request may think “this has been asked and answered so many times, search in the group” and skip the question.

2. RESEARCH. Google Works. The search bar in the group works. Facebook’s search works. Ninety-nine percent of the time, the question you are asking has been asked and answered by others in the group, and there are definitely articles about this topic on the Internet. Take your defined question and pull a few keywords and stick them in the search bar, you will get more than a metric ton of returns with the information you want. You’ll have a lot more satisfaction as you found the answer, instead of it being given to you.

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Daven’s Biography

Erin

My real life name is Eric Landrum.  I am currently 41 years old (I was born Jan 12, 1968) and I have been studying metaphysics since I was 4 years old.  My grandmother first got me started in this path, and she is responsible for most of how I turned out as a person in my life.

It's Daven! In Real Life! At his work! Don't you feel honored now?

I began studying in earnest when I was just starting High School.  This stemmed from many things, and one of them was the fact that I wound up playing Dungeons and Dragons ©.  In there, I found out that the Greek and Roman myths were not dead, and I could interact with them on a personal level.  It was a catharsis  for me.  From there, I began studying the mythology and the religions so I would understand the times I was supposed to be playing in.

From there, it was an easy step to go on to reading about psychic phenomenon.  Telekinesis, telepathy, psychometry, UFOs, and many other things started entering my head.

I also developed a love for fantasy and science fiction books.  This was the saving of my sanity, since I had an entire world to escape into when real life got to be too much.  And it was really hard for me.

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Shields and Wards

Erin

Shields and Wards

Well, I’m pulling this off another page since I have needed to reference this about 50 times and had to find it AGAIN buried in my lessons.  So, without further ado, here is my collected discussion about warding and shielding.


Shields and Wards

One of the first things that you need to accept and act accordingly when dealing with these protections is that they are real. If you assume that they are simply a projection of your imagination, you may as well stop now. No matter the tradition you are trained in, ALL of them have some variant of protection as part of its structure. Some examples of this are:

Wiccans “Casting a Circle” Christians “Dedication and Sanctification” Native ceremonies of blessing and consecration of the Drum Circle Prayers for protection

There are more, but I think you have the idea. Most of these seem to be definable as prayers; very few traditions and religions go so far as to make this a magickal rite in and of itself.

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Hand-Fasting

Erin

This ceremony is best performed during the during the waxing of the Moon. The bride and groom should be skyclad. It is traditional for the pair to exchange rings. They should be silver and have their Craft Names inscribed in runes. The rings should be on the Altar.

[Erecting the Temple is performed. Priest and Priestess kiss.]

Thegn or Covener: There are those in our midst who seek the bond of Handfasting.

Priestess: Let them be named and brought forward.

Scribe or 2nd Covener: (Groom’s name) is the Man and (Bride’s name) is the Woman.

[Bride and Groom come forward to stand facing the Priest and Priestess. Bride before the Priest and the Groom before the Priestess.]

Priestess: (to Groom) Are you (name)?

Groom: I am.

Priestess: And what is your desire?

Groom: To be made one with (Bride) in the eyes of the Gods and of the Wiccans.

Priest: (To Bride) Are you (name)?

Bride: I am.

Priest: And what is your desire?

Bride: To be made one with (Groom) in the eyes of the Gods and of the Wiccans.

[Priestess takes up Sword and raises it high.]

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Wiccan Magick

Erin

by Raven Grimassi
Llewellyn 2001 $12.95 US

ISBN 1-56718-255-0

Review by Daven

Rating: ★★★☆☆ 

This is one more book in the series I requested to use in my Magick Class. Good thing I got around to reviewing it AFTER my class officially ended.

I want to be clear, I know Raven from other writings and I like him a lot. This book has some good information in it. It also has a lot of old stereotypes in it that are better left behind. I really don’t understand how it can still be said with any modicum of seriousness that modern Witchcraft is centuries old.

I had to read through the book in stages. It is a weighty book, and shouldn’t be finished in one sitting. There is a lot of information here. Please note, I did not say that there was a lot of NEW information here. It is the same information that can be found in many other places, explained more concisely, with more detail, and with a different spin on it. But the same set of correspondences, the same herbal information, the same use of the pentagram and so on. It’s Magick 101 for dummies.

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Ethics, Morals and Other Rules

Other Author

Pagans live by a different set of rules than “mere mortals.” Seriously though, we do have our own ethics, morals and family values. There are many lists of these guidelines available. In fact, just about anyone who’s ever written a book about magic or Witchcraft has given a list of “rules to live by.” That’s great, the more we have, the more we have to choose from because, let’s face it, we don’t all agree on everything. We have our sects just like any other religion. Some of us feel better with very specific, detailed rules while others chafe under such a system. Most of us, regardless of other differences, cite the “Witches Rede” as our guiding principle. I guess that’s a good starting place:

“Three words the Wiccan Rede fulfill; ‘an it harm none, do what ye will.”

I believe that is an abbreviated version of Doreen Valiente’s lovely little poem. She also mentions the “Law of Three”: “… unless in thy self-defense it be, ever mind the Rule of Three.” Yes, a very good place to start, indeed. But I have a few other rules that I try to live by.

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The Mysteries of the Ogham

Other Author

(Note from Daven:  This is an excellent article on one of the basics of Celtic Life.  The Ogham.  It is the basis of most of their poetry, literature, and their knowledge.  Look it over and look over that which we have on the Druids, and I think you will start to agree with me.)

The Mysteries of the Ogham-Part One

By Kenneth R. White

The script known as Ogham (oh-m) may have been a product of the Celtic peoples coming into contact with cultures who had already developed a written language; however, it is more than likely that the script developed independently. We know that the Druids used the Greek alphabet for private matters, committing none of their lore to writing. Most of our present day knowledge of Ogham comes to us from the Book of Ballimote, which was written in about the fourteenth century. Like the other texts used to teach medieval students, its sources are far older and lost to us. Ogham is to a long and cumbersome a system to use for writing large texts. The practical use of ogham seems to have been limited to ceremonial or short inscriptions. The physical evidence suggests that Ogham was used for short inscriptions and in fact there are many such examples carved along the edges of stones. Most of these Ogham stones are found in Ireland and Wales though there are a few of them located in Scotland and England. Since Ogham is not practical for writing by hand there must have been some other use. This is where we begin our journey into Ogham as a spiritual or magical system. The Ogham letters themselves were said to have been created by the God Ogma, after whom they are named, From a seventh century Irish text, Auraicept na n’Eces, we are told:

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On the necessity of keeping oaths

Erin

(Note from Daven:  This is a true story.  It happened to me.  I have tried to be fair in my recitation of this, but I am afraid that some of my resentment may have leaked over.  It’s up to you to tell me how I did.  Keep in mind that this is ancient history for my wife and I, and thankfully my daughter no longer remembers this time.  I am not trying to stir up ghosts here, but just to bring some mindsets to light.  Think before you promise someone something.  I had hoped this article would have gotten out into the Pagan Community, but so far it has not.  So I present it here.  I leave the conclusions up to your own conscience.)

(Update 1-16-04: I’m updating this because I don’t want it misunderstood why this page is here.  I have written this because I HATE B&B and what they stand for at this time.  I cannot stand what they think of as “good pagan relations” with other groups.  I have had contact with them from time to time on other lists, and so far, none of them have been positive.

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